The Big East's chances for a monumental tournament were dealt severe blows with season-ending injuries to point guards for two of their four ranked teams project both as first round losers rather than winners.
The injury to Mo Watson before Creighton's game against Marquette indicates their Sagarin Rating of 87.56 (21st overall) is actually 84.12 (34th, one spot behind Marquette) without Watson, whose Value Add is 5.40 (points per game impact). Due to the Domino effect of losing a player (see explanation in Big Apple Buckets), you subtract the value of a team's seventh best player (1.96 for Creighton) to get the actual impact in points per game off their Sagarin Rating so 87.56 for season to date, MINUS 5.40 for how many of those points were the result of Watson being on the floor, PLUS 1.96 to estimate the overall additional points based on the strength of Creighton's other players who need to extend their game.
Unfortunately, the news is even more devastating for Xavier with Edmond Sumner going down for the season with an ACL. Sumner is a top 100 player with a 7.32 Points Per Game Impact (Value Add), so the math for Xavier's Sagarin Rating without him is 86.79 (24th best) MINUS his 7.32, PLUS their 7th best player's 1.89 for a new rating of 81.36 for 56th place without Sumner. They should certainly still make the tournament, but they will need players to step up beyond what is expected to get a win in the tournament.
On the flip side, I do not see any Big East teams who have a late comer (2nd semester transfer or player returning from injury) who will elevate them substantially. However, to give an example of teams that might be improving, I point to star Austin Wiley of my hometown team Auburn. My graphics are not great, but Wiley is a potentially dominant center who so far is worth 1.96 points - but when you scroll to the right the final number of ^12^ indicates he only played 12 of the teams 21 games.
Because he has played in tougher SEC games, you would expect his value to actually be at least double even though he has played slightly more than half the games. (When a player is not on the floor he gets a ZERO Value Add for that game). Therefore he is probably about a 3.92 rather than a 1.96, so if you add the additional 1.96 to Auburn's Sagarin rating of 78.94, the real team rating with Wiley is 80.83, a jump from 72nd to 60th.
Auburn has an uphill battle to make the tournament because the games they played before Wiley still count, but it appears Bruce Pearl has a team that is at least on the verge of being March Madness quality, so if they can win 22 games between the regular season and SEC tournament - starting with a win against a hot Tennessee team tonight, they could sneak in. Unlikely, but at 60th a team that could easily make the NIT and win at least one game.
I hope this post works as a Value Add guide to measure the impact of missing and returning players and understand who much they impact a teams actual Sagarin rating and if they should be favored in a given game.
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Tuesday, January 31, 2017
Monday, January 30, 2017
Reinhardt and Wilson surge to give MU one of deepest teams; 8-seed in tournament
In a season highlighted by the play of two of the top freshmen in the country, veterans Katin Reinhardt and Duane Wilson surged to carry Marquette to an projected 8-seed Monday according to both ESPN and CBS Sports.
Due to slow starts to the season in which they were worth close to 0.00 points per game, Wilson and Reinhardt still rank as the 8th and 7th most valuable players over the season as a whole, worth an improvement of 1.99 and 2.43 in Marquette's victory/defeat margin for game due to great recent performances.
Marquette's ability to have eight different players who can be the difference in a big game makes them one of the most balanced teams in the country. Only 10 teams have eight players ranked higher than Wilson's 1.99 Value Add, and only 14 teams have seven players with a higher rating than Reinhardt's surging 2.43. Here are the teams, followed by where all of Marquette's players rank.
It is very hard to be a projected 8-seed with no players in the Top 200, but Marquette is doing it with incredible balance. Marquette's victim Villanova is the only team in the nation with three top 50 players in Josh Hart (ranked No. 1), Jalen Brunson (No. 14) and Mikal Bridges (No. 47).
Due to slow starts to the season in which they were worth close to 0.00 points per game, Wilson and Reinhardt still rank as the 8th and 7th most valuable players over the season as a whole, worth an improvement of 1.99 and 2.43 in Marquette's victory/defeat margin for game due to great recent performances.
Marquette's ability to have eight different players who can be the difference in a big game makes them one of the most balanced teams in the country. Only 10 teams have eight players ranked higher than Wilson's 1.99 Value Add, and only 14 teams have seven players with a higher rating than Reinhardt's surging 2.43. Here are the teams, followed by where all of Marquette's players rank.
It is very hard to be a projected 8-seed with no players in the Top 200, but Marquette is doing it with incredible balance. Marquette's victim Villanova is the only team in the nation with three top 50 players in Josh Hart (ranked No. 1), Jalen Brunson (No. 14) and Mikal Bridges (No. 47).
Rnk | Best 8th Players 1/29/2017 | Teams w/ Deepest Bench | Value |
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1 | Mamadi Diakite #25 | Virginia | 3.34 |
2 | Killian Tillie #33 | Gonzaga | 3.12 |
3 | Zach Brown #1 | Wichita St. | 3.05 |
4 | VJ King #0 | Louisville | 2.49 |
5 | John Egbunu #15 | Florida | 2.47 |
6 | Kethan Savage #11 | Butler | 2.44 |
7 | Dominique Hawkins #25 | Kentucky | 2.33 |
8 | CJ Walker #2 | Florida St. | 2.15 |
9 | Theo Pinson #1 | North Carolina | 2.07 |
10 | Parker Van Dyke #5 | Utah | 2.04 |
11 | Keanu Pinder #25 | Arizona | 1.99 |
12 | Duane Wilson #1 | Marquette | 1.99 |
13 | Dustin Thomas #13 | Arkansas | 1.90 |
14 | Justin Jenifer #3 | Cincinnati | 1.89 |
15 | King McClure #22 | Baylor | 1.88 |
16 | Ebuka Izundu #15 | Miami FL | 1.86 |
17 | Sagaba Konate #50 | West Virginia | 1.83 |
18 | Admiral Schofield #5 | Tennessee | 1.78 |
19 | Kaiser Gates #22 | Xavier | 1.76 |
20 | Isaac Banks #10 | East Tennessee St. | 1.62 |
Rnk | Best 7th Players 1/29/2017 | Teams w/ Deepest Bench | Value |
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1 | Josh Perkins #13 | Gonzaga | 4.30 |
2 | Anas Mahmoud #14 | Louisville | 4.10 |
3 | Justin Leon #23 | Florida | 3.51 |
4 | Jack Salt #33 | Virginia | 3.48 |
5 | Shaquille Morris #24 | Wichita St. | 3.44 |
6 | Nate Fowler #51 | Butler | 3.44 |
7 | Casey Benson #2 | Oregon | 3.03 |
8 | Terry Maston #31 | Baylor | 2.87 |
9 | Nate Britt #0 | North Carolina | 2.71 |
10 | Lamont West #15 | West Virginia | 2.71 |
11 | Carlton Bragg #15 | Kansas | 2.60 |
12 | Khalil Iverson #21 | Wisconsin | 2.60 |
13 | Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman #12 | Michigan | 2.49 |
14 | Mychal Mulder #11 | Kentucky | 2.45 |
15 | Katin Reinhardt #22 | Marquette | 2.43 |
16 | Ryan Cline #14 | Purdue | 2.33 |
17 | Temple Gibbs #2 | Notre Dame | 2.29 |
18 | Devontavius Payne #1 | East Tennessee St. | 2.27 |
19 | Eric Paschall #4 | Villanova | 2.27 |
20 | Jarquez Smith #23 | Florida St. | 2.26 |
Marquette player ranks.
Rnk | Player | Pts/Gm |
---|---|---|
207 | Luke Fischer #40 | 5.84 |
346 | Markus Howard #0 | 4.82 |
360 | Andrew Rowsey #30 | 4.75 |
395 | Sam Hauser #10 | 4.46 |
423 | JaJuan Johnson #23 | 4.32 |
582 | Haanif Cheatham #25 | 3.69 |
962 | Katin Reinhardt #22 | 2.43 |
1151 | Duane Wilson #1 | 1.99 |
2012 | Traci Carter #21 | 0.61 |
2102 | Matt Heldt #12 | 0.52 |
9999 | Sandy Cohen #5 | 0.00 |
It was still a good week for #mubb
The Scrambled Eggs pod refuses to let losing to Providence to cause us panic or not enjoy the last week and a half of Marquette basketball. As part of that theme, we decided to go out of order and get the Providence game analysis out of the way first. We then talk about the Villanova game and how the experience was for each of us with one of us at the Bradley Center and the other on tape delay. We then play a new game for predicting the future associated with Marquette basketball: "Fact or Alternative Fact". Lastly, we close out with some light recruiting/roster discussion and why this is a most not lose week. Bottom line, MU is in good position, but this week better result in two wins or we've given it all back. As always, enjoy!
Couldn't help myself
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Monday, January 23, 2017
What a difference a quality win makes
Prepare yourselves, we thought this was going to be a relatively quick pod after a big Marquette win on Saturday against Creighton; turns out we have a lot to talk about.
We talk about the big win, did it matter that Watson didn't play for Creighton, and how much the win impacts Marquette for the rest of the season. We also preview the Villanova game including debating the relative values of a win or a loss in the game. We also spend some time cajoling fans to show up at the Bradley Center on Tuesday. As always, enjoy the pod.
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Friday, January 20, 2017
Apparently hope isn't a strategy, but that doesn't stop us from trying
Every MU fan in the 2nd Half against Butler
Marquette is where we thought they would be after the Seton Hall, DePaul and Butler games...the only problem is the way they got there. We start out with a quick review of the first two games played since our last pod and any impressions we took from them. Then we turn to the crater that is Marquette's defense after the Butler game. We talk about the "collapse" and where the blame lays (spoiler: a lot of places), put into context how bad the defense was, and ask what should change. We also have a discussion of Luke Fischer performance and whether it is time for a change in the 5 spot, or at least a significant modification of minute distribution. Next up is a Creighton match-up that has a different look to it now that their senior PG, Mo Watson, went down with an ACL tear. We discuss whether that gives us a better chance and how it impacts the game. We close out the pod with some light recruiting news. Enjoy and let's hope the team forgets to pack it's ole defense for this road trip.
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Saturday, January 14, 2017
Howard Surging, MU 1st Four Out in Value Add
While Markus Howard continues to surge toward the top 5% (top 200) of all players at www.valueaddbasketball.com, the earlier departure of Traci Carter lowers Marquette's team Value Add just enough to classify as the "1st Four Out," the same status MU has with Jerry Palm. Meanwhile, RPI Forecast calculates MU in the "Next Four Out."
The basic rule is that if a player has to miss a game it will cost a team his Value Add, however it will be slightly lower if the 9th best player on the team is higher than zero. So if Luke Fischer misses a game, his 6.39 Value Add indicates Marquette is actually about 5.39 points worse off since Katin Reinhardt is in the 9th spot and worth 1.00. This is not due to Reinhardt "replacing" Fischer as it would be in baseball WAR where a backup shortstop replaces a short stop, but rather the "domino" effect outlined in this Big Apples piece on each player becoming a little less efficient as they are stretched to take on more minutes and tougher shots.
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The basic rule is that if a player has to miss a game it will cost a team his Value Add, however it will be slightly lower if the 9th best player on the team is higher than zero. So if Luke Fischer misses a game, his 6.39 Value Add indicates Marquette is actually about 5.39 points worse off since Katin Reinhardt is in the 9th spot and worth 1.00. This is not due to Reinhardt "replacing" Fischer as it would be in baseball WAR where a backup shortstop replaces a short stop, but rather the "domino" effect outlined in this Big Apples piece on each player becoming a little less efficient as they are stretched to take on more minutes and tougher shots.
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Sunday, January 08, 2017
That was a suboptimal performance from Marquette, let's see if they can bounce back
Two Marquette games and two bad outcomes for very different reasons. First we focus on the most recent game, the drubbing in Philadelphia by Villanova. The game was a reflection of the talent disparity between Marquette and Villanova, but we try and figure out how reflective the result is on how MU can perform the rest of the season. We also talk about the performance of Luke Fischer and Haanif Cheatham's offensive issues within Big East play. We shift the topic to the tough, last minute loss at Seton Hall. With much chagrin, we relive the last minutes of the game and discuss what that may tell us about the team going forward. Having talked about all that, we take stock of where the team is currently and what might happen over the next several weeks. We talk about the rematch with Seton Hall and the always unsettling match up with DePail. While the last week has been pretty dishearening for Marquette fans, we find reason to be positive about the upcoming week for Marquette. Last, we spend a little time talking about potential recruit Harry Froling. Enjoy the week and lets hope Marquette can take a couple of victories this week.
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Saturday, January 07, 2017
Marquette shoots for second win over a No. 1 team
Marquette will try for a win over a No. 1 ranked team for the only time besides Dwyane Wade's win over Kentucky.
Kenpom gives Marquette a 14% chance of the upset in the toughest game of the year - at Villanova. Based on Value Add, Nova's offense beats out Creighton for best in the conference, and their defense beats out Xavier for best. Marquette still ranks ahead of Seton Hall despite the heartbreaking loss there.
Nova has three of the top six players in the conference, while Marquette is very balanced, with five players in the top 500, however noone in the top 200 or top 15 in the Big East.
Kenpom gives Marquette a 14% chance of the upset in the toughest game of the year - at Villanova. Based on Value Add, Nova's offense beats out Creighton for best in the conference, and their defense beats out Xavier for best. Marquette still ranks ahead of Seton Hall despite the heartbreaking loss there.
Rnk | Team | Off | Def | Value Add |
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2 | Villanova | 37.3 | -11.06 | 48.54 |
12 | Butler | 32.82 | -9.36 | 43.07 |
18 | Xavier | 30.7 | -9.99 | 40.69 |
25 | Creighton | 34.41 | -4.41 | 39.43 |
36 | Marquette | 29.19 | -5.37 | 35.01 |
52 | Seton Hall | 24.5 | -7.56 | 32.66 |
68 | Georgetown | 26.43 | -3.13 | 31.04 |
74 | Providence | 21.52 | -8.35 | 29.98 |
108 | St. John's | 22.75 | -2.65 | 26.06 |
198 | DePaul | 19.69 | 1.03 | 20.72 |
Nova has three of the top six players in the conference, while Marquette is very balanced, with five players in the top 500, however noone in the top 200 or top 15 in the Big East.
Season Rank | Player | Team | Value |
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1 | Josh Hart^ 3 | Villanova | 16.11 |
11 | JP Macura^ 55 | Xavier | 11.21 |
34 | Jalen Brunson^ 1 | Villanova | 9.96 |
64 | Shamorie Ponds^ 2 | St. John's | 9.1 |
68 | Khyri Thomas^ 2 | Creighton | 8.95 |
76 | Mikal Bridges^ 25 | Villanova | 8.74 |
77 | Rodney Pryor^ 23 | Georgetown | 8.72 |
83 | Justin Patton^ 23 | Creighton | 8.58 |
84 | Andrew Chrabascz^ 45 | Butler | 8.56 |
88 | Edmond Sumner^ 4 | Xavier | 8.51 |
92 | Trevon Bluiett^ 5 | Xavier | 8.48 |
134 | Khadeen Carrington^ 0 | Seton Hall | 7.51 |
149 | LJ Peak^ 0 | Georgetown | 7.39 |
165 | Emmitt Holt^ 15 | Providence | 7.22 |
166 | Tyler Lewis^ 1 | Butler | 7.18 |
202 | Maurice Watson^ 10 | Creighton | 6.78 |
210 | Jalen Lindsey^ 21 | Providence | 6.67 |
223 | Luke Fischer^ 40 | Marquette | 6.59 |
232 | Angel Delgado^ 31 | Seton Hall | 6.53 |
239 | Kris Jenkins^ 2 | Villanova | 6.45 |
256 | Rodney Bullock^ 5 | Providence | 6.31 |
278 | Tyler Wideman^ 4 | Butler | 6.2 |
281 | Kelan Martin^ 30 | Butler | 6.17 |
295 | JaJuan Johnson^ 23 | Marquette | 6.06 |
373 | Desi Rodriguez^ 20 | Seton Hall | 5.44 |
384 | Sam Hauser^ 10 | Marquette | 5.32 |
403 | Kamar Baldwin^ 3 | Butler | 5.24 |
406 | Avery Woodson^ 0 | Butler | 5.22 |
422 | Jessie Govan^ 15 | Georgetown | 5.12 |
428 | Markus Howard^ 0 | Marquette | 5.1 |
431 | Tre'Darius McCallum^ 10 | DePaul | 5.09 |
441 | Marcus Foster^ 0 | Creighton | 5.05 |
490 | Haanif Cheatham^ 25 | Marquette | 4.79 |
492 | RaShid Gaston^ 35 | Xavier | 4.77 |